The base form in an expression of a wish
These three expressions preserve the old optative subjunctive, a form used to express wishes. What remains is the bare verb form: forbid, help, live. A third-person singular subject such as God or Heaven does not change it, because this subjunctive form has no person or number agreement.
Adding -s is therefore more than a minor spelling slip. It changes the verb to the indicative and changes the message: instead of a wish, it becomes a statement about what someone actually does. The missing ending carries the distinction, so this rule calls for attention rather than difficult vocabulary.
Notice that the -s distinction is visible only with a singular subject. In Long live the founders!, live matches the ordinary plural form, so a learner may produce it correctly without knowing the rule. Check your understanding with a singular subject.
God / Heaven + forbid · God / Heaven + help + noun phrase · Long + live + noun phrase
- NP / noun phrase —
- A noun phrase: a noun with its dependent words, such as the new student; the pattern treats it as one group of words.
- noun —
- A word naming a person, thing or idea: student, book, happiness.
God forbid that the tunnel should flood during a shift change.
God forbid that the tunnel should flood during a shift change.
God is singular, but the verb stays in the bare form forbid, not forbids.
Heaven help the surveyor who has to explain this to the council.
Heaven help the surveyor who has to explain this to the council.
Bare help anticipates trouble for the person named. The surveyor is the object, not the subject.
Long live the harbour choir!
Long live the harbour choir!
The verb is bare live, with long placed first. The noun phrase after the verb is the subject.
2. Three formulas, three intentions
God forbid expresses a strong wish that an event should not happen. The speaker names the unwanted event while rejecting the very prospect of it. It often responds to someone’s suggestion, or introduces the speaker’s own concern about a risk.
Heaven help + noun phrase focuses on a person or organisation rather than an event: trouble lies ahead for whoever is named. Dictionaries recognise two shades of meaning: sincere sympathy for someone in difficulty and an implied threat to someone who acts against a prohibition. Context determines which is intended.
Long live + noun phrase wishes a long existence, often ceremonially, in toasts, slogans and speeches. Neutral technical writing normally describes the risk or consequence directly. In the unlikely event that additionally labels an event unlikely; God forbid does not do that by itself.
God forbid that the second pump should give out before the tide turns.
God forbid that the second pump should give out before the tide turns.
The speaker names the unwanted event and expresses a wish to avert it.
Heaven help the two climbers still above the ridge.
Heaven help the two climbers still above the ridge.
Here the tone is sympathetic: the people named are in difficulty.
Heaven help anyone who moves that scaffolding before the inspector arrives.
Heaven help anyone who moves that scaffolding before the inspector arrives.
The same formula now has a threatening tone: consequences await anyone who disobeys.
Long live the canal trust that dredged this channel for forty years!
Long live the canal trust that dredged this channel for forty years!
This ceremonial expression suits a celebration rather than a neutral report.
3. Identifying subjects and objects
In God forbid, God is the subject and forbid the verb. In Heaven help us, Heaven is the subject and us the object. The base form expresses the wish. A singular subject simply makes the contrast with ordinary forbids / helps particularly visible.
Long live the republic! has a different order: the noun phrase is the subject, placed after the verb. Initial long is followed by inversion in this fixed formula. Mistaking the republic for an object can produce Long live to the republic, but the subject cannot be introduced by to.
In the related pattern Long may she reign, the modal may also precedes the subject: auxiliary–subject inversion. The main verb reign remains after she. In Long live the republic, it is live itself that comes before the subject.
Long (adverb) + live (bare form) + subject · Heaven + help + object
- subject / S —
- The grammatical subject: who or what the clause is about; the verb agrees with it. In The book was written, the book is the subject, although someone else does the action.
- object / O —
- Who or what an action affects: in I read a book, a book is the object.
- adverb —
- A word adding information about an action, quality or circumstance: slowly, very, often.
Long live the seed bank and everyone who fills its shelves!
Long live the seed bank and everyone who fills its shelves!
The compound subject follows the verb. Do not introduce it with a preposition.
Heaven help us if the freezers stay off until morning.
Heaven help us if the freezers stay off until morning.
Us is the object. Heaven is a singular subject, making the bare verb form especially noticeable.
Long may the little press on Mill Street go on printing.
Long may the little press on Mill Street go on printing.
May precedes the subject the little press, showing modal–subject inversion. The main verb go follows the subject.
4. What can follow the formula?
God forbid can be followed by a clause with its own subject. That is optional and does not change the meaning. Should commonly occurs inside this clause; it does not express obligation here, but presents an imagined event. A bare verb form without should is also common.
For the usual wish to avert an event, the clearest pattern is God forbid (that) + subject + verb. Ordinary forbid somebody to do something expresses a prohibition addressed to someone. Do not automatically substitute that construction for the pattern practised here.
Heaven help takes an object without a preposition: us, the volunteers. The noun may have a relative clause. After Long live, the usual examples contain a noun phrase functioning as subject, which may also include a relative clause.
God forbid (that) + subject + should + base verb (or subject + bare verb form)
- subject / S —
- The grammatical subject: who or what the clause is about; the verb agrees with it. In The book was written, the book is the subject, although someone else does the action.
- verb / V —
- A word for an action or state, such as work or be. The pattern determines its form.
- V1 / base form —
- The base verb without to: work, go, be.
God forbid the appeal should be filed a day late.
God forbid the appeal should be filed a day late.
That is omitted, while the clause with its subject and should remains.
God forbid that anyone touch the wiring before the power is off.
God forbid that anyone touch the wiring before the power is off.
The version without should uses the bare form touch inside the clause.
Heaven help the ward sister who takes over at midnight.
Heaven help the ward sister who takes over at midnight.
A noun phrase without a preposition is followed by a relative clause with who.
5. A fixed formula: no tense changes, do-support or question form
The fixed expressions do not follow ordinary verb inflection. They do not become past-tense, will-future, progressive, do-questions or don’t-negatives while retaining the same formula. Adding an auxiliary changes the structure into an ordinary verb construction rather than this fixed exclamation.
This restriction concerns the formula itself, not the whole sentence. Should, will or a past tense can occur within a dependent clause. Distinguish the two levels: the fixed opening frame and the ordinary grammar inside the material that follows.
For the same reason, these particular formulas do not form negatives in the usual way. To express a different or opposite wish, choose another formula or an ordinary construction rather than mechanically negating this one.
Long live the mountain rescue team that went out in that weather!
Long live the mountain rescue team that went out in that weather!
Past tense is appropriate inside the relative clause, while the formula itself retains the bare form.
God forbid that the last radio should fail up there.
God forbid that the last radio should fail up there.
Should operates inside the dependent clause, not in the opening formula.
Heaven help the crew that sails without a forecast.
Heaven help the crew that sails without a forecast.
No auxiliary comes before help. The fixed frame is Heaven help.
6. Parenthetical God forbid
God forbid can move from the main clause into a parenthetical position, set off by commas or dashes within another sentence. A common conversational pattern is If, God forbid, the dam gives way…. The formula can also stand alone as an exclamation responding to a possibility just mentioned.
A crucial point: in parenthetical position, the formula does not negate anything. The surrounding sentence still treats the event as possible. God forbid marks only the speaker’s attitude. Reading it as grammatical negation would reverse the conditional meaning.
The punctuation matters. Set the parenthetical expression off on both sides with commas or dashes so the reader can distinguish it from the surrounding clause, rather than trying to read God as part of that clause.
If, God forbid, the border crossing closes overnight, the lorries will queue on the bridge.
If, God forbid, the border crossing closes overnight, the lorries will queue on the bridge.
The formula is enclosed in commas. Closure of the crossing remains a possibility, not a negated event.
The lower deck would be under water in minutes — God forbid — long before anyone reached the hatch.
The lower deck would be under water in minutes — God forbid — long before anyone reached the hatch.
The same parenthetical expression appears between dashes inside an ongoing sentence.
God forbid! I had not even thought of that.
God forbid! I had not even thought of that.
A standalone response exclamation, with no following complement clause.
7. Alternatives to the first word
The first word varies in two of the formulas: God forbid / Heaven forbid and God help us / Heaven help us, with Lord forbid and Lord help us also found in conversational usage. The core meaning stays the same; the choice reflects how directly the speaker wishes to name God. Dictionaries also record archaic Heaven forfend, recognisable but rare in present-day writing.
Long live has no corresponding set of alternatives. Its first word is an adverb, not the name of a higher power, so this kind of substitution does not apply.
We do not practise related formulas such as God bless you, God save the King or so help me God here. They have related structures but their own meanings and usage boundaries.
Heaven forbid that the register should leave this room.
Heaven forbid that the register should leave this room.
Heaven replaces God without changing the structure or core meaning.
Lord help the ticket inspector who tries to fine that crowd.
Lord help the ticket inspector who tries to fine that crowd.
A conversational variant with Lord. The bare form help is still required.
Long live the glass foundry that kept half this town in work!
Long live the glass foundry that kept half this town in work!
No corresponding replacement of the first word applies here: long is an adverb, not a name.
8. Boundaries: other sources of a bare form
The same bare form appears elsewhere in English grammar, including a subordinate clause after a verb or adjective that licenses the subjunctive: The claimants demanded that the tribunal reopen the case. There, a trigger in the main clause licenses the form. In our three formulas, there is no such external trigger: the fixed frame itself carries the wish meaning.
The wider topic includes two other groups of fixed expressions with different discourse functions: some concede a point or acknowledge circumstances; others qualify the speaker’s own claim or disclaim a position. Our three are optative: they express wishes or warnings. Confusing them in a text means confusing intentions, not merely forms.
These formulas have a noticeable tone. God forbid can sound religious or function as a familiar secular exclamation. Heaven forbid is a milder alternative for some speakers. Long live can be a sincere slogan or an ironic comment, depending on context.
The claimants demanded that the tribunal reopen the case.
The claimants demanded that the tribunal reopen the case.
The bare form reopen is licensed by demanded, not by an exclamatory formula.
God forbid that the tribunal should reopen the case.
God forbid that the tribunal should reopen the case.
There is no external mandative trigger here. The opening frame God forbid supplies the wish meaning.
Long live the small claims court — the only one that answers the phone!
Long live the small claims court — the only one that answers the phone!
Deliberate irony: a ceremonial frame is applied to an everyday matter.
Common mistakes
Incorrect:God forbid we losing the parish registers.
Correct:God forbid that we lose the parish registers.
This clause, with optional that, needs a complete verb construction: we lose or we should lose. Losing alone, without an auxiliary, does not form the predicate here.
Incorrect:God forbid to lose the only copy of the charter.
Correct:God forbid we should lose the only copy of the charter.
An infinitive does not complete this target formula. Use a clause naming who might lose the copy.
Incorrect:Long will live the co-operative that saved the mill!
Correct:Long live the co-operative that saved the mill!
The fixed Long live formula does not take will. Adding it changes the verb structure and loses the target exclamation.
Incorrect:Heaven live the volunteer brigade that put out that fire!
Correct:Long live the volunteer brigade that put out that fire!
In this fixed expression, live follows the adverb long. The first word is not a divine name; Heaven live does not form the intended conventional formula.
Incorrect:Long live to the seed bank!
Correct:Long live the seed bank!
The noun phrase after live is the subject, so do not put to before it.
Incorrect:Heaven help to the volunteers who cleared the road.
Correct:Heaven help the volunteers who cleared the road.
Help takes a direct object without a preposition in this formula. To comes from a mistaken analogy with give help to somebody.
Incorrect:God forbid that the kiln should cracks during the firing.
Correct:God forbid that the kiln should crack during the firing.
Use the base form crack without -s after should. Should presents an unwanted possibility here; the point is not a universal contrast between imagined actions and every use of would.
Sources
- Wikipedia — English subjunctive (fixed formulas and bare verb forms)
- Wiktionary — Long live (an inverted optative subjunctive formula)
- Wiktionary — God forbid (exclamation, parenthetical use, heaven forbid and archaic heaven forfend)
- Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English — Heaven help somebody (sympathy and implied threat)
- Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English — God/Heaven forbid (following clauses, including omission of that)